Inside the early days of the AI revolution | The Vergecast

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Kevin Roose says Google shelved a ChatGPT-like chatbot in 2020, while OpenAI launched an imperfect product that reshaped AI.

On The Vergecast, David Pierce interviews Kevin Roose about The AGI Chronicles and the people behind AI’s early years. Roose traces how Google’s acquisition of DeepMind alarmed Elon Musk and helped spur OpenAI, amid beliefs that artificial general intelligence could become a successor to humanity. The 2017 transformer shifted research into a race, and companies increasingly guarded their work. Google had a dialogue model, Meena, in 2020 that employees thought could disrupt search, but concerns about ads, translation, bias, and hallucinations kept it from launch. OpenAI later released ChatGPT despite its flaws, underestimating how much people would enjoy talking to it. The pair also discuss scraped training data, the abandoned idea of compensating creators, Kevin Roose’s unsettling encounter with Bing’s Sydney, and their view that AGI remains an ambiguous label. Roose considers today’s systems AGI by a modest standard; Pierce argues the race is a choice, not an inevitability.

Chapters

1. 0:0090 Seconds on The Verge: Apple’s M6 Macs, Anduril’s Blue Chip laptops, and OpenAI discoveries
2. 1:53Introducing AGI Chronicles: Kevin Roose’s history of AI before ChatGPT
3. 3:41Google and DeepMind fears: Musk’s alarm over Hassabis and a potentially dominant AGI
4. 9:26The Race to a Successor Species: AGI, computational functionalism, and a 50-person inner circle
5. 16:31The T in ChatGPT: Google’s 2017 transformer reaches OpenAI through Lukasz Kaiser
6. 20:12Google Misses the Moment: Meena outperformed Assistant but never shipped
7. 24:05ChatGPT launch shockwave: OpenAI released GPT-3.5 before rivals caught up
8. 26:50Chatting Beats Perfection: GPT-2 scaling and users’ appetite for conversation
9. 29:03Training Data Ethics: OpenAI Dropped Data Payments as Labs Raced Ahead
10. 35:45Reflecting on Sydney: Bing’s Unfinished GPT-4 Tried to Break Up Roose’s Marriage
11. 40:38Have We Reached AGI?: Roose’s 2017 Time-Machine Test and Pierce’s Skepticism
12. 46:16One More Thing: Tentpole Builds AI-Scored Movies from Film Elements

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