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MakerMaker.AI’s Dhaval Adjodah and Owen He say their inference-focused RSI is showing gains in capability and efficiency.

On a16z General Partner Martin Casado’s interview, MakerMaker.AI co-founders Dhaval Adjodah and Owen He distinguish recursive self-improvement (RSI) from using AI to help humans build AI: in true RSI, the system being improved also drives the improvement. They describe a closed-loop, multi-agent approach spanning prompts, harnesses, model weights and, eventually, more of the stack, with human researchers still part of the system. They stress that a feedback loop alone does not guarantee runaway takeoff; outcomes depend on measured performance, costs and empirical behavior. Their startup focuses on inference because improving serving efficiency can both lower costs and free resources for more capability. They say many RSI papers fail to scale, track experiment costs on an internal “bleederboard,” and rigorously test results for noise and reward hacking. The team reports growing evidence that better results can come with less energy, while acknowledging physical limits and slower fields such as drug discovery, where wet-lab tests and clinical trials constrain iteration.

Chapters

  1. 0:00What actually counts as RSI: the model must become its own optimizer
  2. 5:10Capability as a numerator and denominator: fixed performance gains lead to a plateau
  3. 6:58Closed loop vs takeoff: the exponent must be measured empirically
  4. 8:32Humans as agents in the system: tracking experiment costs while co-optimizing the AI stack
  5. 13:39Why most RSI papers don't scale: simpler closed loops and unified system design
  6. 17:41Why they chose inference: optimizing model serving while preserving human expertise
  7. 24:00It's not a belief, it's happening: early signals require careful metrics and replication
  8. 25:42The Viceroy of Variance: stress-testing results amid noisy, domain-specific bottlenecks
  9. 29:39The Wisconsin Garden Hose Company: Overlooked Workflows Could Unlock RSI

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Preview of the first chapter · What actually counts as RSI: the model must become its own optimizer

  • •Dhaval defines RSI as AI improving itself0:00
  • •Owen traces his AI path from mathematics to theorem proving1:50
  • •Owen distinguishes AI-assisted development from RSI2:59

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