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CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer

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Ben Horowitz and the All-In hosts debate CoreWeave’s 15% bond yields, Anthropic’s $16.8 billion quarterly revenue, and AI doomerism.

Ben Horowitz joins the All-In hosts as CoreWeave’s bonds sell off and neocloud stocks fall roughly 20%. The discussion weighs its debt-heavy financing, 75% revenue concentration in three customers, and the risk of refinancing another $35 billion against strong compute demand and GPU scarcity. Hosts argue that short payback periods—2.5 years for CoreWeave and about one year for SpaceX—are crucial, while rising power costs and interest rates remain vulnerabilities. Anthropic’s investor-day figures spark mixed reactions: reported quarterly revenue of $16.8 billion, 900% net revenue retention, and estimates of $70 billion to more than $100 billion in ARR, amid debate over its IPO valuation and how much capital it should raise. The group also discusses AI-written bespoke software, open-source competition, and power as a potential moat. Horowitz criticizes Anthropic’s warnings about self-replicating models on IoT devices, and the hosts close by debating Bill Gates’s AI warnings and the motives behind doomerism.

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  1. 0:00Ben Horowitz fills in for Friedberg as All-In celebrates its No. 1 ranking
  2. 2:18CoreWeave’s 15% debt yields trigger a neocloud selloff; Michael Intrator explains the “box”
  3. 6:45CoreWeave CDS pricing signals 55% five-year default risk as $35 billion in financing remains
  4. 12:05CoreWeave faces a $5 billion break-even gap while AI compute shortages distinguish it from the dot-com bubble
  5. 17:00Loudcloud’s bandwidth crash warns of arbitrage risk as CoreWeave bankruptcy odds reach 15% for 2027
  6. 22:41CoreWeave’s bond repricing lifts implied yields to 15%, while GPU-backed project finance and startup growth remain in focus
  7. 27:01Horowitz backs demand for Anthropic and OpenAI IPOs as Sacks flags 5.5–6% Treasury yields
  8. 31:14AI's deflationary impact: $5 platform games and bespoke enterprise software
  9. 35:54AI's deflationary impact: data moats, a 1.4-terawatt-hour power gap, and CoreWeave payback
  10. 41:18AI's deflationary impact: CoreWeave's half-built capacity and Nvidia-constrained supply
  11. 45:44Anthropic investor-day reactions: $16.8B quarterly revenue and uncertain ARR
  12. 51:19Anthropic IPO debate: strong investor signals, open-source criticism, and token pricing
  13. 54:54Anthropic IPO funding debate: $200–$250B raise and 5–10 GW compute
  14. 59:57Anthropic's investor day gets mixed reactions: Ben Horowitz backs a 2–4% Sam Altman grant
  15. 1:03:45Psyop Corner: Anthropic's IoT warning and Sacks's criticism of its distillation campaign
  16. 1:08:45Psyop Corner: MRAI and Kimwolf show existing IoT worm risks
  17. 1:12:44Psyop Corner: Opus 4.5 breach story and Coinbase's 30% fraud reduction
  18. 1:17:09Psyop Corner: Claude's self-rewriting constitution and model-alignment concerns
  19. 1:22:19Understanding Bill Gates the Doomer: AI warnings, COVID comparisons, and the pursuit of relevance
  20. 1:28:09Understanding Bill Gates the Doomer: Four AI conditions unmet and calls for Gates to build again

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